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Geeky Info on a Gown

For the longest time, I have been curious about the construction of the Dress of Dorothea Sabina von Neuburg, which is at the Bayerisches National Museum in Munich.

Yes, I know that the same dress appears in Janet Arnold's Patterns of Fashion (1560-1620), and that she includes the pattern. What I could not figure out is whether the doublet and skirt were two separate pieces, or if the skirt was stitched to the doublet. I also wanted to know whether the petticoat was a petticoat bodies or if it stood alone.

Call me silly. Maybe the evidence was staring at me at the face all along but, since the pattern did not appear to feature a waistband, I was intrigued. Moreover, Arnold keeps referring to it as a gown, which doesn't tell me whether it is in pieces or not.

Therefore, I did what any reasonable person would do: Write to the Museum and hope to get a reply from a curator.

And a reply I got. In case you were wondering, Dagmar Drinkler, Textilrestaurierung (Textile Restorator?) replied to me that all pieces are separate, and that more information and a pattern had been published in Karen Stolleis: Die Gewänder aus der Lauinger Fürstengruft, München 1977.

I have found the book for about $40 on Bookfinder (it includes shipping!) and I have currently ordered it.

Of course, it is in German.

Of course, I cannot read German.

But I bet it has pictures. And I know it has a pattern. I may yet convince someone to help me translate the interesting bits. Plus I am interested in seeing the similarities or differences on the author's redaction and Arnold's. It will be interesting.

And now, you know.

~ Bel

PS. Of course, chances are that the info was there and I am a moron and couldn't find it. But this makes me feel much better.



( 16 comments — Leave a comment )
Mar. 15th, 2008 02:33 am (UTC)
My favorite online translator these days is Reverso.
Mar. 16th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I had not seen that one before. Thanks!
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Mar. 16th, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
Sure! This is quite exciting.
Mar. 15th, 2008 03:04 pm (UTC)
You would enjoy my German friend Karin. I know she would be very interested in helping you translate. I can set up a meeting......

Mar. 16th, 2008 02:13 pm (UTC)
I may take you into that. :-D
Mar. 15th, 2008 05:25 pm (UTC)
I thought I was being all cool and finding a book (via you) before Drea had one. We just found more cool stuff in the book that she didn't realize was there - like the patterns. And an inventories of people's wardrobes - which includes "bademantel" (from some guy in 1644). I'd never heard of a bademantel :)
Mar. 16th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
Re: danke
Awesome! I can't wait to get my book now!
Mar. 15th, 2008 07:50 pm (UTC)
Hey! No telling me about cool books a month before I have to move my household to a new house! It's bad enough that Adam is putting in half a dozen Amazon.com orders every month. . .
Mar. 16th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
My job here is done. Mwahahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar. 16th, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
Is that part of your new attack laurel (TM) duties?
Mar. 16th, 2008 05:02 pm (UTC)
Absolutely! It is my hidden talent.
Mar. 15th, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
Minna von Krupp of Dun Carraig, known as piecesgirl52 here on LJ, speaks German (she majored in it) if you need any help. =)
Mar. 16th, 2008 02:15 pm (UTC)
Thanks. Once I get the book and start working on it, I'll be looking for help. :-)
Mar. 16th, 2008 12:58 pm (UTC)
I love that gown and I can't wait to hear what you learn from your new book. :)
Mar. 16th, 2008 02:16 pm (UTC)
Thank you. I figured that I can post things here before I write an article and post it to the webpage. Faster and keeps people in the know ;-)
Mar. 17th, 2008 12:17 pm (UTC)
Red's wife, Katerina, speaks German (she used to live there). If you have the book with you at a local event, you may be able to corral her for a bit for some translation help. She translated and taught me the German for my Pelican Oath in 15 minutes :-)
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