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Grrrrr

I swear, FrontPage is evil. The good news is, I was able to put back my stuff on the net. The bad news is, for some reason the transfer stripped two of the pages from its background color. Grrrrrr.

But at least the information is there.

Sigh.

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alricthemad
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:41 pm (UTC)
No way to edit the files on the site?

Besides, I thought Frontpage had a built in FTP piece to allow maintenace of pages in place.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:57 pm (UTC)
Darn, I think that my reply was lost. Sigh.

I could edit the files on site, but then I would have no backup. Believe me, I used to do that and it is scary. For example, I lost all my updates when the site migrated. However, since I had made them from my hard-drive, I still have them and they are not really lost. Just a pain to find a way to upload effectively.

FrontPage has a built in FTP piece, but it is currently not working and it has me and Readyhosting baffled. Hence a new FTP program.
reasdream
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:48 pm (UTC)
Maybe time to stop using frontpage?
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:57 pm (UTC)
Definitely exploring options.
jaine_parr
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:48 pm (UTC)
I agree, Front Page is evil. I either do my editing with a plain text editor, or I use Dreamweaver MX and do plain text editing anyway. Dreamweaver just allows me to see the results of my code more precisely when I've got nesting formatting and alignment tables.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:52 pm (UTC)
I'm looking into that, only that I understand that Dreamweaver is kind of expensive.
jaine_parr
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:56 pm (UTC)
Depending on your HTML skills, you might be able to get away with a beefed up plain text editor, like Ultra Edit.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 02:58 pm (UTC)
My HTML skills are those of the common hamster. Sigh.
jaine_parr
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:00 pm (UTC)
HTML is pretty darned easy to learn. If you want a basic once over in an evening that will have you tapping your way through a page with fancy text, background colors and graphics, let me know.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
Sure will. Thanks a million. I have learned basic stuff such as backround color, links, and other nifty stuff. However, stuff like tables are still eluding me. I have purchased HTML for Dummies in the hopes that it will help me get my act together.
jaine_parr
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:07 pm (UTC)
HTML for Dummies was confusing for me. It was too simplified to make sense. I went to a text that was more complex, but better explained by Molly Holzschlag. The basics of tables aren't hard to grasp through Molly's text. It's a QUE Special Edition.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:08 pm (UTC)
I will definitely look for it. Thanks a million!
jaine_parr
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
You can also create a page in FP, then take it to a plain text editor and tweak things. Once in FP, does NOT mean forever in FP.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:05 pm (UTC)
That?s what I've been thinking of. The nice thing about FP is that I can drag and drop - plus I like the auto-thumbnail feature. However, it does leave a lot of garbage in the code.
elizabethnmafia
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:09 pm (UTC)
Dreamweaver
I started my page in FrontPage and had so much trouble with it I switched to Dreamweaver. I did have to redo my entire website, since when I tried to cut and past my FrontPage work into Dreamweaver I still had problems, but it took only a fraction of the time to redo it that it took to do it the first time.

The program is very simple and user friendly (even I can do it :) ). If you are looking for another program to try I would highly recommend Dreamweaver.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Dreamweaver
Thanks! Dreamweaver is one of the programs I am looking into. :-)
elizabethnmafia
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Dreamweaver
Yeah, I noticed a couple of other people had recommended it as well. :)

I have been creating my page in Dreamweaver and then uploading it using an FTP program and I have been very happy with the results.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Dreamweaver
I love my new FTP program. It is a lot faster than using FrontPage to upload. The only problem was the two stripped pages. I am going to re-work them tonight and hope that they upload properly.
laughing_fox
Feb. 15th, 2006 03:30 pm (UTC)
Free, easy to use editing program
try http://www.evrsoft.com/1stpage3.shtml - a good free editor that does previews similar to dreamweaver. Very easy to use too. I'd stick with cute ftp for uploading rather than using theirs, but other than that it seems to be bug-free. I used their old version for years, the new one just came out.
dominyk
Feb. 15th, 2006 04:24 pm (UTC)
Talk to Connor, he'll set you up. ;)
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 05:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks! He just did :-D
troyfish
Feb. 15th, 2006 04:51 pm (UTC)
How about I bring you a copy of Dreamweaver 8. Consider it an evaluation copy of sorts. It can be expensive,but if you know the right places it is a lot less so. ;)

If this is for you, then you can use my methods for installing... if it is for work then you should have them buy it for you as it is well worth the expense.

There is even a plugin you can get that will "Clean up FrontPAge HTML"
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 05:39 pm (UTC)
Awesome! It is actually for me, so I can continue editing and building the Fallen From Grace webpage, as well as mine. :-)

You rock!
dominyk
Feb. 15th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)
It's not what you know, it's who you know.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 06:31 pm (UTC)
No kidding :-D
troyfish
Feb. 15th, 2006 10:21 pm (UTC)
Cool, I think I can swing it... I have DW MX 2004 and a craxk for it so it doesn't phone home... however I just got 8 which is kinda nice... but I haven't tried a crack on it yet.

I'll see if there is one out there for it.
belfebe
Feb. 15th, 2006 10:29 pm (UTC)
Thanks a million! You have made me a very happy belfebe!
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